Are you a nationist or are you a racist?

[Adam White]

One has to choose. Are we living in the 1900 or 2010. Are you race proud, or just nation proud?

[bmellor]

Well normally the two went hand in hand. A nation can not be comprised of more than one race! The confusion is brought about by the phsycological warefare against the western "white" nations of the past 50 years in order to try and destroy them and has as ultimate goal the destruction of the white race as decried by the Zionists in their "Protocols of Zion".

I take it that the term racist in this content means people who have a racial identity and pride in their race. This normally went hand in hand with a National Identity. And the two were inseperable. A National identity went further in identifying people from different nations ie: German, Swedish, Dutch etc. who were from the same race but belonged to different Nations which woulf normally also have their own unique if related languages.

[Stormraaf]

It would be purposeful to distinguish between the concepts of nation and state. One can champion nationalism as the aspirations of one's people to acquire a state, and for nationalists the possession of a nation state is a noble ideal, but the two terms shouldn't be equated.

I'll answer Adam's question from a different angle: as an Afrikaner my pride lies with the (currently stateless) Afrikaner nation, so I'm comfortable with option 2. Furthermore, I find advocating "white" pride to be senseless. Consisting of the Europid race is but an attribute of the ethnicity to which I belong, but so it is for a number of European and New World peoples to whom I owe no allegiance.

A healthy society will be mindful of ethnic realities and fundamentally understand that different races have inherently different natures, and if necessary, take responsibility for the future biological quality of one's ethnicity (think along the lines of the old Morality Act), but our aim wouldn't be to become part of a shapeless white mass, and shouldn't be to identify simply as "white".

Following this reasoning, I rarely find it necessary to speak of being racist/racialist. Terms such as ethnocentric and folkish usually suffice.

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